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11-15-2014, 04:09 PM | #2 |
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Re: Branson Z Fest 2015!
is there even going to be a BZF15? I heard tales that pickle was finally going to step aside, which is definitely a step in the right direction.....but I also heard the oklahoma Z group was wanting to/going to take over. if true, I won't be attending anymore. The OK group already fixes the show for their pals/favorites, the same people in their little 'click' win....year in, and year out.....with them in total control, the event is finished.
I would love to see Paul & Nick Brown take over. They're local (atleast Paul is, Nick lives in KC now iirc) and first and foremost, they are Z enthusiasts!! That would always be first, far on top of any car club politics..... If they did take over the planning, I would actually be willing to get involved again, and a few others I know would too (Steve, Skidmore, Dan, and a couple others).
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11-19-2014, 12:14 AM | #3 |
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Y'all could count on some help from a couple of us in Arkansas also. Been telling pickle for a couple of years we were willing to help.
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12-02-2014, 03:06 AM | #4 |
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Can't wait for BZF to roll around again this year - If there is one, ASCO will definitely be participating.
That said - Pickle messaged me to tell me he was going to be contacting me to discuss some ideas for improving the show for 2015. ...but then I never heard back from him.
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12-12-2014, 02:35 PM | #5 |
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Re: Branson Z Fest 2015!
There was talking of having a different Branson.....ie, on a different date organized by a different bunch of people.
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12-12-2014, 09:08 PM | #6 |
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Yea Si, they moved it east to Deals Gap, NC and call it ZDayZ.
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12-13-2014, 03:22 PM | #7 |
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ZCON is being held in Memphis this year. Memphis is not that far away. This is the closest I think this has ever been to our region. It's being held about 6 weeks or so after Branson Z Fest. That could really affect BZF attendance.
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01-01-2015, 07:49 PM | #8 | |
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I have attended Branson since 2007 and tied for my first trophy this last summer. I can honestly say, my 350z is cleaner and in better condition than most and I have never complained once when obviously lesser prepped cars were winning trophys. Why did I never complain? Because I know its a people's choice show. I also never complain because I am there for only a handful of reasons: -Get a few days of R&R . -Nothing to talk about other than Z cars with like-minded folks. -Have a few nice dinners with friends that I don't see any other time. -Drink some cold beers and puff a few cigars. -Dodge a few rainstorms down at the landing. -Chat up old friends and maybe pick up a few more along the way. I challenge anyone to find a better place to accomplish all of those for the price that Branson offers. I also challenge people to add to my list of reasons for going to BZF and explain how those reasons were not met. I just hope that "I expect a trophy" isn't one of them because if that's why you go to any car event, you will be disappointed more often than not. The OKZCC has been a long time supporter of BZF in more ways than you know. Not to mention that it was the Oklahoma club that rallied with some folks in Branson that got this whole thing started.
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01-01-2015, 08:46 PM | #9 | |
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01-01-2015, 10:04 PM | #10 |
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Nah, no popcorn needed. I'll leave the club faithful to defend itself. Don't worry, its not sour grapes or anything, I'm not really a 'car show' guy, I seldom even enter my cars....its just observations I've made. There were far more than 14 OK people last year though....but whatever, all good on my end, as I won't be attending BZF this year anyway. Zcon is looking more appealing if I do an event this year, its very close to me (memphis)....but also considering taking a year off, I think more than anything, I'm a little burned out on it. BZF USED to be a great event, absolutely....but it has not been that way for the last few years, mainly to piss-poor planning. 2010 IIRC was the last BZF event that I really had a blast at, huge turnout, lots of sponsors, and even the planning went really smooth. Been a downward spiral since. I've been attending since 2005.
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01-02-2015, 11:23 AM | #11 | |
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Believe me if it were a true judged show with points awarded for exterior, paint and engine, there may be more trophies in Oklahoma. Its the way our club judges and our members are prepared for it with very clean cars. Hell, a third of the cars in the BZF show do not even open their hoods or windows. I'm not seeing what has changed so much that you are dissing BZF and entire clubs for no good reason. The hotel is the same (minus the motorcycles, thankfully), price is pretty much the same, dates have not really changed, there is still a BBQ, still have a drag strip day, still have a ferry cruise, still have the Dramamine cruise, and most importantly, still have lots of great people attending. I agree that the sponsorship has dipped a bit but not a deal breaker IMHO. |
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01-02-2015, 12:44 PM | #12 | |
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Anyway, As I was saying before you got your shorts in a knot with me revealing what was RUMORED, not fact (about the OK group taking over the event)..... BZF is in shambles right now, there is no denying that, try as you may.....but last year was simply a chinese firedrill with the planning staff. Zero coordination. I wont attend a repeat of that other than to stop for a day and say HI to everyone...but actually registering, not happening...I mean seriously? Cash only, no shirts, and a price hike? Something rotten in Denmark? I didn't even register last year. Last year was my shortest BZF ever, I arrived Wednesday and left Friday....but the weather didn't help, rain took away a lot of the cruises I usually do, it's done that the last 2 years....which is certainly nobody's fault, but take the cruises out of the equation, and what's left of the PLANNED EVENT (I omit the friends and commradery)? A disorganized mess? I'll pass. I really want to see the event revitalized, and as I said initially before your tirade, that won't happen until Pickle steps down or relinquishes power to others that can get things done. |
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01-02-2015, 01:18 PM | #13 |
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Guess we'll all just have to eagerly await the Z car event you are putting on so we can come and "Fix" that one too. I'm positive it will be well attended and go off without the slightest hitch and the car show will be one where everyone gets a participation ribbon.
Just quit slamming the OKZCC because you are upset because you didn't get a trophy and you are mad at Pickle. The OK crew had nothing to do with either of them. |
01-02-2015, 02:23 PM | #14 | ||
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I'm not even mad at Pickle, hes a really good guy, and would not hesitate to say that on a personal level, hes a friend....I just think (<--my opinion mind you) hes in way over his head or burned out...whatever the reason, the planning has been abysmal the last few years, and there's no denying that....and the event has very much suffered for it. The proof is sponsorship...The last couple years, its just down to a couple...and yet another big one pulled out just this year, who I will not mention, but I'm sure you know who it is. My point is that coordinating should be a big group effort like it used to be....working with a lot of car clubs, individuals, and sponsors. I'm afraid BZF is headed the same direction Midwest Z Fest went, and that would be sad... |
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01-02-2015, 02:46 PM | #15 |
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All is well and you are totally welcome to your opinion and agreed the sponsorship is down the last couple years. However in your original post you accused the OK club of fixing a people's choice car show and that is where I have a problem.
Has BZF changed?... Yea. Enough to not come back?...Maybe for some, not for most. Is a people's choice show a popularity contest?...Sometimes. But to slam a club because you think you know how everyone from said club voted?...You're way off. The OKZCC shows up, helps out, and puts their cars in the show. What is wrong with that? |
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*edit* I really hope something changes for the better, I really don't see the event surviving a repeat of last year. |
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01-04-2015, 01:12 PM | #18 |
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Just finalizing some vacation, but I'll likely be at BZF this year, not for the show at all, but the people. Some great guys who attend.
I'll agree with Chris regarding how the event is now - it isn't a patch on how it was 5+ years ago, but it's still fun and I will likely be flying from UK again for it this year.....despite saying that I wasn't going to go this year - there are just a LOT of good people who go to this event that I can't not go, especially since the Schultes have grown in numbers by 1 since last year and my sushi event was such a success! |
01-04-2015, 01:17 PM | #19 | |
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01-04-2015, 01:28 PM | #20 |
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Haha! It is not the same without some key people - unfortunately, you're a key person, so therefore, you have to attend, even if only for 5 minutes whilst I experience you calling me a wanker!
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01-04-2015, 05:57 PM | #21 |
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It will be interesting to see the attendance at this year's BZF. There are 3 Z Fests in about a 6 week period.
About 2 weeks after Branson is Midwest Z Heritage in Chicago and about 4 weeks after that is ZCON in Memphis. All 3 of these are less than a days drive for many of us. Undoubtedly a lot of the diehards will be at Branson but it may be a challenge getting new converts with the other two scheduled close behind. I'm sure for some, it will come down to costs. |
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01-04-2015, 06:49 PM | #23 |
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01-05-2015, 03:35 PM | #24 |
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WOW...have not read this thread for awhile.....
Cost is an issue for me also....don't get vacations (really)...so since ZCON is so close....giving myself 5-6 days off, first time in 7 years....not paying for the track or drag....being a noobie...just want to take it all in and see if the ZCON's are worth it.... Will miss my night s at Branson |
01-06-2015, 03:17 AM | #25 | |
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01-06-2015, 09:22 AM | #26 |
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Sooooo.............I will ask it just in case Pickle hears we are asking...... When IS registration going to open for Z Fest!
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01-06-2015, 11:15 AM | #27 |
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01-06-2015, 12:22 PM | #28 |
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01-06-2015, 01:35 PM | #29 |
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If its a repeat of last year, IE, cash only, no tee shirt, and price hike, I won't be registering anyway. If I come, it'll probably be just for a day anyway.
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